Should Flav, Nelly and Pat face criminal charges?

According to British newspaper The Daily Telegraph, Singapore could request extradition from a Commonwealth country should it consider the plot to have been an 'extradition crime', a category that includes 'acts done with the intention of endangering vehicles, vessels or aircraft' or 'malicious or wilful damage to property'. Though Piquet emerged thankfully unscathed from his hefty impact with the Marina Bay street circuit concrete wall, the potential for injury or even worse – to driver or spectators – has not gone un-noted.



There are also possible litigious cases from Renault – for dragging the company's global name and image so publicly through the mud – and Ferrari. Felipe Massa had been leading the race when his compatriot Piquet crashed, but following the safety car intervention and a botched pit-stop, the S?o Paulista went on to take the chequered flag outside the points in 13th, before ultimately missing out on the drivers' world championship crown to McLaren rival Lewis Hamilton by just a single marker in the final reckoning.



“There is a clear causal link between the alleged cheating and the financial loss to Massa and his team,” reasoned specialist sports lawyer Stephen Hornsby. “As for Renault suing Briatore, that is possible too – but Renault are unlikely to want to keep the matter going for little reward.”



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They can probably be extradited from most countries that have an extradition treaty with Singapore. Nick Leeson was extradited from Germany, and they don't necessarily need a treaty to extradite someone from some countries, just a good legal argument or a good diplomatic relationship.



I think they're more likely to face criminal charges in relation to the race-fixing allegations, although with the amount of carbon-fiber debris left on the track from Junior's crash, they might even be charged with littering. :)



All the above arguments don't change 1 important fact. Renault not contesting the charges is slightly different to an admission of guilt. They can still argue before a criminal court that they decided not to contest the FIA's civil charges because it was cheaper to settle and will ultimately do less harm to their brand's reputation. Corporations do this all the time.



Edit: I think this whole affair exposes the stupidity of Flavio. Why would a person who is involved in some kind conspiracy like this not look after 1 of his co-conspirators? Firing Junior before the end of the season without giving him an opportunity to drive somewhere else was just asking for trouble.
litigious? S?o Paulista? you cut and pasted this didn't you ?





but as for the story itself i don't see it going that far, all parties in question would like this to just go away. this is just some lawyer trying to see if there is a market for a few million dollar lawsuit of which 30% will go into his pocketShould Flav, Nelly and Pat face criminal charges?
If there is sufficient evidence to charge them with a crime then they should face the courts and if found guilty they should accept their punishment.



Such is the nature of civilised society.



Why should they be treated any differently to anyone else ?
The betting mafia will be pi$$ed off by now, they might press the Singapore government for some action.



Don't dream of the WDC being changed, FIA wont let that happen. Maybe the Sao Paulista might get a hefty compensation.Should Flav, Nelly and Pat face criminal charges?
Have you heard? Flavio relocated his mega yacth to the Maldives. Yup, there is no extradition in the Maldives, and due to high Italian tourist traffic, Italian is a commonly spoken language there.



Piquet can go to Cape Verde (they speak Portugese). No extradition there as well.



Pat? He has a choice of coutries with no extradition treaties in place: Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, China (People's Republic of China), Union of the Comoros, Congo, Democratic Republic of the, Cote d' Ivoire, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Jordan, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russian Federation, Rwanda, S?o Tomé and Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia and Montenegro, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Vanuatu, Vietnam, Western Samoa, Yemen, and Zimbabwe. If I were him I would avoid the Marshall Islands...too strong of a name association with F1 enforcers!!!!



Aren't you tired of this already?



These guys are going nowhere, and nobody's going to prosecute them criminally. Besides, even if they stay in their own countries, their country can refuse extradition on the basis that Singapore enforces capital punishment and corporal punishment.



But have you ever been to Singapore? As soon as you land, in the hallways of the airport and before you reach immigrarion, there are huge signs every five meters that alert you from committing any sort of crimes in Singapore (If you have a fraction of a gram of drugs you are deported after being caned....if you spit a chewing gum on the street you are severly fined...if you throw a candy wrapper on the street you can be arrested....and so on). Wouldn't that be a deterrent for these smart a$$es to try this sheme in another country?



But, hey, at this point in time this is a lawyer's dream come true. Bring in any controversy and he will charge you an arm and a leg. So be carefull, you can only deal with these lawyers twice in your lifetime...cause you're going to run out of limbs. I was thinking of tagging along the lawsuits: I had purchased Massa's merchandise in Monaco last year. The Singapore-gate affected the outcome of the championship and therefore my merchandise depreciated in value. I am sueing for the difference in value if Massa became champion instead! It's related, isn't it? I've got a case.
In a word, No.



Good link. Sad and distressing. But fodder for a lawsuit for what might have been? Don't think so. The world has become entirely too litigious. It's a bloody pandemic! Get P.O.'d? Hell, just sue 'em! No more common sense.



Anyway, Their departure from Team Renault says it all. Renault made them go. Not a doubt. They (Renault) are not interested in getting the sh|t that's flying, all over themselves. Are the the trio's actions reprehensible? Of course. Are they low life scumbags? Same answer. But criminally culpable? Well, I'm sure any hundred attorneys could make a case for that. But realistically? I'd be surprised if it went beyond a lot of finger-pointing and name calling. Regardless, their names are now sh|t to the world. But what do they care? They're probably all millionaires many times over. For them it will be just another day at the office.. or the yacht!